NEW-TECHIES via eBay[ebay.com] has (Certified Refurbished) Alienware Aurora R15 Liquid Cooled Desktop: Ryzen 7700, 32GB Ram, 1TB SSD, RTX 4080 on sale for $1599. Shipping is free.
Good specs with 1350W psu and "liquid cooling" but as a former Ebay seller with over 1,000 sales, I find the listing to be a little sketchy. For example"
1. Zero inside pics
2. Reviews are 97%, which does not seem bad to most, but 99-100% gives me a much better vibe
3. Seller often is shipping the wrong items
4. Seller is ghosting buyers when problems arise
So ymmv on this seller but even though I wanted a 4080, it's a pass for me and I may just wait for Prime Days in mid July
Good specs with 1350W psu and "liquid cooling" but as a former Ebay seller with over 1,000 sales, I find the listing to be a little sketchy. For example"
1. Zero inside pics
2. Reviews are 97%, which does not seem bad to most, but 99-100% gives me a much better vibe
3. Seller often is shipping the wrong items
4. Seller is ghosting buyers when problems arise
So ymmv on this seller but even though I wanted a 4080, it's a pass for me and I may just wait for Prime Days in mid July
eBay is so buyer biased when it comes to issues with orders i personally wouldn't worry if i wanted to buy this. Good points tho and dealing with customer support on either end can be a deal breaker for some 👍
Also wanted to mention cpu might bottleneck on some games. 7800x3d or i9 13900k recommended by "cataclysmComputes" on yt. This is a good deal tho I'm very tempted
Bios on Alien ware are locked in - pretty much going to keep that configuration. Bios is registered for most part to the service tag. . Upgrading risky from
CPU to Ram- storage not any big issues . Good for the price really can't beat it but know it's not a simple thing to just buy more ram and a faster cpu to upgrade. .
Also wanted to mention cpu might bottleneck on some games. 7800x3d or i9 13900k recommended by "cataclysmComputes" on yt. This is a good deal tho I'm very tempted
It'd take something quite demanding to bottleneck a modern 8-Core/16 Thread, even being a non-3D variant.
Despite all the caveats (many of which you guys above have noted), this seems like a pretty good deal. For 1440/1080p a 4080 should be great for at least another 2-3 years.
Big negatives:
- Alienware desktop cases/cooling all suck for cooling and are upgradability.
- slow ram, but at least there are 32gb
- cpu is decent, but rather weak for gaming when paired with a 4080. Despite Dell's proprietary BS, maybe you'll have solid upgrade options? I didn't bother to check, but a couple years from now dropping in a 7800x3d & low-latency 6000Hz ddr5 could be a sweet upgrade.
- the time spent reading line by line through the fine print of the return/exchange policy, All State warranty, etc.
- rtx 5080 expected in the next 6-8 months BUT, based on Nvidia's current enterprise focus plus their past 6 years, gamers will see Nvidia (and AMD) continue their "Moore's Law is dead" marketing to justify ever-higher pricing, while releasing Nintendo-levels of artificial product scarcity.
Big upsides:
- someone wants a complete system for the next year or two, and then they carry the 4080 over to their next build.
- you can game at 4k right now (with some cpu/ram bottlenecking)
- Given the stagnating pace of gpu development, an rtx 4080 might be a viable 1440p/60fps card 5 years from now. That's pretty good bang-for-the-buck considering right now you're getting a complete and decent prebuilt that isn't too skimpy versus the price.
Worst case scenario outside of a lemon system and return/exchange headaches:
- the extremely unlikely happens and before 2024 ends, Nvidia, AMD, or Intel offer a new sub-$1000 card with incredible bang-for-the-buck versus anything currently available.
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1. Zero inside pics
2. Reviews are 97%, which does not seem bad to most, but 99-100% gives me a much better vibe
3. Seller often is shipping the wrong items
4. Seller is ghosting buyers when problems arise
So ymmv on this seller but even though I wanted a 4080, it's a pass for me and I may just wait for Prime Days in mid July
It comes with 2 years from Allstate included
1. Zero inside pics
2. Reviews are 97%, which does not seem bad to most, but 99-100% gives me a much better vibe
3. Seller often is shipping the wrong items
4. Seller is ghosting buyers when problems arise
So ymmv on this seller but even though I wanted a 4080, it's a pass for me and I may just wait for Prime Days in mid July
eBay is so buyer biased when it comes to issues with orders i personally wouldn't worry if i wanted to buy this. Good points tho and dealing with customer support on either end can be a deal breaker for some 👍
CPU to Ram- storage not any big issues . Good for the price really can't beat it but know it's not a simple thing to just buy more ram and a faster cpu to upgrade. .
It'd take something quite demanding to bottleneck a modern 8-Core/16 Thread, even being a non-3D variant.
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Big negatives:
- Alienware desktop cases/cooling all suck for cooling and are upgradability.
- slow ram, but at least there are 32gb
- cpu is decent, but rather weak for gaming when paired with a 4080. Despite Dell's proprietary BS, maybe you'll have solid upgrade options? I didn't bother to check, but a couple years from now dropping in a 7800x3d & low-latency 6000Hz ddr5 could be a sweet upgrade.
- the time spent reading line by line through the fine print of the return/exchange policy, All State warranty, etc.
- rtx 5080 expected in the next 6-8 months BUT, based on Nvidia's current enterprise focus plus their past 6 years, gamers will see Nvidia (and AMD) continue their "Moore's Law is dead" marketing to justify ever-higher pricing, while releasing Nintendo-levels of artificial product scarcity.
Big upsides:
- someone wants a complete system for the next year or two, and then they carry the 4080 over to their next build.
- you can game at 4k right now (with some cpu/ram bottlenecking)
- Given the stagnating pace of gpu development, an rtx 4080 might be a viable 1440p/60fps card 5 years from now. That's pretty good bang-for-the-buck considering right now you're getting a complete and decent prebuilt that isn't too skimpy versus the price.
Worst case scenario outside of a lemon system and return/exchange headaches:
- the extremely unlikely happens and before 2024 ends, Nvidia, AMD, or Intel offer a new sub-$1000 card with incredible bang-for-the-buck versus anything currently available.